Comments on: Pixish Lets Photographers Help Buyers http://blogs.photopreneur.com/pixish-lets-photographers-help-buyers Marketing Your Photography Business Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:02:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: George http://blogs.photopreneur.com/pixish-lets-photographers-help-buyers/comment-page-1#comment-1193 George Mon, 03 Mar 2008 19:48:42 +0000 http://blogs.photopreneur.com/pixish-lets-photographers-help-buyers#comment-1193 Agree with all the rest.. I'd hate to be a professional photographer that doesn't rely on weddings to make their living... seems like every day a new Stock Agency opens up on the web offering photos for .20 or so... and now this.. let's just give it all away! Sorry.. but as digital cameras get better and better and cheaper and cheaper... the market for a pro photographer will get smaller and smaller.. except for weddings.. Agree with all the rest.. I'd hate to be a professional photographer that doesn't rely on weddings to make their living... seems like every day a new Stock Agency opens up on the web offering photos for .20 or so... and now this.. let's just give it all away!

Sorry.. but as digital cameras get better and better and cheaper and cheaper... the market for a pro photographer will get smaller and smaller.. except for weddings..

]]> By: Todd G http://blogs.photopreneur.com/pixish-lets-photographers-help-buyers/comment-page-1#comment-1117 Todd G Wed, 20 Feb 2008 23:29:26 +0000 http://blogs.photopreneur.com/pixish-lets-photographers-help-buyers#comment-1117 Sorry, Derek, but I agree with the other posters. It sounded interesting so I went and registered, but when I looked at the requests I doubt I'll go back. I looked through a half-dozen or so, and didn't see any real compensation: "Appear in a slideshow!" "Get a T-shirt" "Appear on my web site" "Be satisfied that you're supporting Obama" and my favorites, "The winner will get a hearty pat on the back" and "The prize is priceless: My love and admiration." As my daughter says, "OoooooooKaaaaaaay..." Sorry, but I'd would have gotten some real buyers before wasting a promo splash. Good luck, tho! (I just went back and see there are a couple of paying jobs now, but I'd suggest some minimum value criteria for gigs. Again, good luck with it.) Sorry, Derek, but I agree with the other posters. It sounded interesting so I went and registered, but when I looked at the requests I doubt I'll go back. I looked through a half-dozen or so, and didn't see any real compensation:

"Appear in a slideshow!"
"Get a T-shirt"
"Appear on my web site"
"Be satisfied that you're supporting Obama"

and my favorites,

"The winner will get a hearty pat on the back" and
"The prize is priceless: My love and admiration."

As my daughter says, "OoooooooKaaaaaaay..."

Sorry, but I'd would have gotten some real buyers before wasting a promo splash.

Good luck, tho!

(I just went back and see there are a couple of paying jobs now, but I'd suggest some minimum value criteria for gigs. Again, good luck with it.)

]]> By: Derek http://blogs.photopreneur.com/pixish-lets-photographers-help-buyers/comment-page-1#comment-1086 Derek Tue, 12 Feb 2008 16:51:24 +0000 http://blogs.photopreneur.com/pixish-lets-photographers-help-buyers#comment-1086 Hi there! I'm Derek from Pixish. I just wanted to say that the concern over spec work is understood on our end and we're going to be making some changes to the site to make it more clear that it's not what the site is about. Remember, we're still in beta. We released it early to gather feedback, so thanks for that! Here's more thinking on the subject: http://pixish.com/news/3 Hi there! I'm Derek from Pixish. I just wanted to say that the concern over spec work is understood on our end and we're going to be making some changes to the site to make it more clear that it's not what the site is about. Remember, we're still in beta. We released it early to gather feedback, so thanks for that!

Here's more thinking on the subject: http://pixish.com/news/3

]]> By: John F. http://blogs.photopreneur.com/pixish-lets-photographers-help-buyers/comment-page-1#comment-1085 John F. Tue, 12 Feb 2008 15:11:49 +0000 http://blogs.photopreneur.com/pixish-lets-photographers-help-buyers#comment-1085 Hi, John Harrington posted something about this worth reading over here: http://photobusinessforum.blogspot.com/2008/02/pixish-stupid-is-as-stupid-does.html I for one am against this type of crowd sourcing contest nonsense out of sheer principle. However, I can't help but think that any decent pro out there is NOT going to devalue themselves by submitting work in exchange for a "pat on the back" when that can be easily had for free on Flickr or through charity work. I for one, would not. Hi,

John Harrington posted something about this worth reading over here:
http://photobusinessforum.blogspot.com/2008/02/pixish-stupid-is-as-stupid-does.html

I for one am against this type of crowd sourcing contest nonsense out of sheer principle. However, I can't help but think that any decent pro out there is NOT going to devalue themselves by submitting work in exchange for a "pat on the back" when that can be easily had for free on Flickr or through charity work. I for one, would not.

]]> By: Dan Bannister http://blogs.photopreneur.com/pixish-lets-photographers-help-buyers/comment-page-1#comment-1083 Dan Bannister Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:44:32 +0000 http://blogs.photopreneur.com/pixish-lets-photographers-help-buyers#comment-1083 "For now then, the biggest benefit that Pixish offers photographers might be the chance to get images off the hard drive, and into use — and to get known in the process." I don't get it. Why the driving urge to give away images in exchange for embarrassing and worthless tat just to "get them off the hard drive and into use"? This is the equivalent of getting free labour from high school kids by offering them "experience" instead of pay for their hard work. The recipients of these images are profiting from you and your work and this system just says to me, "you're a stupid sucker and your work is worthless but, I'll give you a used CD for it cause ya need the help" If you support this, you cheapen the profession, devalue your work and encourage others to take advantage of people. How come nobody ever tries this with a cab driver, plumber or a lawyer? Because they know their worth and take pride in their work, you should too. "For now then, the biggest benefit that Pixish offers photographers might be the chance to get images off the hard drive, and into use — and to get known in the process."

I don't get it. Why the driving urge to give away images in exchange for embarrassing and worthless tat just to "get them off the hard drive and into use"? This is the equivalent of getting free labour from high school kids by offering them "experience" instead of pay for their hard work.

The recipients of these images are profiting from you and your work and this system just says to me, "you're a stupid sucker and your work is worthless but, I'll give you a used CD for it cause ya need the help" If you support this, you cheapen the profession, devalue your work and encourage others to take advantage of people.

How come nobody ever tries this with a cab driver, plumber or a lawyer? Because they know their worth and take pride in their work, you should too.

]]> By: Katie http://blogs.photopreneur.com/pixish-lets-photographers-help-buyers/comment-page-1#comment-1077 Katie Tue, 12 Feb 2008 01:01:07 +0000 http://blogs.photopreneur.com/pixish-lets-photographers-help-buyers#comment-1077 Not to be a party bummer, but doesn't this sound a lot like working on SPEC? The advertiser, instead of hiring a photographer to do the job, will post a request on pixish, and get a lot of replies. Then they can safely choose a photograph they want and pay very little for it. Wouldn't that hurt the same photographers who are trying to go into business, not mentioning the ones already in business? The whole 'community' concept seems like a cover up for another spec website. As for comparison to JPG magazine: JPG asks for photos for the sake of printing their own magazine, not for some random companies wanting the photos. Yes they do make money off the photographers that submit photos to them, and only a few that get published are actually paid, but at least it’s not straight out 'work on assignment' thing. Not to be a party bummer, but doesn't this sound a lot like working on SPEC? The advertiser, instead of hiring a photographer to do the job, will post a request on pixish, and get a lot of replies. Then they can safely choose a photograph they want and pay very little for it. Wouldn't that hurt the same photographers who are trying to go into business, not mentioning the ones already in business? The whole 'community' concept seems like a cover up for another spec website. As for comparison to JPG magazine: JPG asks for photos for the sake of printing their own magazine, not for some random companies wanting the photos. Yes they do make money off the photographers that submit photos to them, and only a few that get published are actually paid, but at least it’s not straight out 'work on assignment' thing.

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